Thursday, August 18, 2005

More on BlogSpot's Flag button

BlogSpot’s new Flag button seems to be getting a lukewarm reception: the Blog Herald is sniffy about it (“a half-arsed effort”) but also appears to misunderstand the Blogger Buzz announcement, misinterpreting “a blog has to be republished for this new button to show up” as “it only applies to new blogs”. Sorry, but no, that’s not what “republished” means: Blogger republishes a blog when new content is added or when the blogger makes changes. My blogs predate the Flag button but, since I posted new content, carry it.

Weblogs, Inc.’s Unofficial Google Weblog picks up the Blog Herald report and runs with it, perpetuating the “only new blogs” misconception. A familiar pattern of repackaged, and underresearched, reporting.

The Blog Herald report does raise one interesting point: could the Flag button encourage denial-of-service attacks against individual blogs? For example, could a pro-choice blog be taken down by an organised anti-abortion email campaign of “visit this blog and flag it”? Or vice versa? Hopefully those reviewing the flag reports are level-headed enough to avoid this. Similarly, could spammers attempt to hide themselves amongst the noise by orchestrating mass flaggings of innocent blogs?

One other obvious thought struck me, though: once spammers realise that carrying the Blogger navbar on spam blogs increases their chances of being taken down, won’t most of them simply remove the navbar? Although this is against BlogSpot’s terms of service, it’s trivially easy to do: a quick Google search turns up many pages explaining how, including one ironically itself hosted at BlogSpot.

(Personally, I don’t mind the navbar; the search box is moderately useful, the Next Blog button sometimes fun for serendipitous surfing, and carrying the navbar is a small price to pay for free hosting, particularly as the alternative would probably be carrying advertising. I do however remove it when styling for print—try a Print Preview to see the result—as it doesn’t seem useful to either me or BlogSpot on the printed page.)

And one wild thought: I would assume the blog search engines—Technorati, Feedster, Blogpulse and the like—have developed algorithms for filtering spam blogs out of their results. Wouldn’t it be nice to close the loop and feed lists of identified spam blogs back to Blogger so they could act on them? Interestingly enough, Technorati is rumoured to be on the market, with Google often mentioned as a potential buyer. Hmmm.

[Update: the Blog Herald and Unofficial Google Weblog posts have been corrected.]

[Update: the Blog Herald reports that the black-hat community is already considering spam reporting and flagging schemes as gameable: “‘Bloggerbowling’: the practice of having robots robots flag multiple random blogs as splogs regardless of content to degrade the accuracy of the policing service.”]

Categories: Spam

Comments:

As I see it, it will only too often lead to completely legitimate blogs being removed/unlisted without a warning, especially since there's no way for a blog owner to see if his/her blog has been flagged and home many times, and I suspect blogger itself hasn't decided yet how many times a blog should be flagged to take action on it.

Re: "For example, could a pro-choice blog be taken down by an organised anti-abortion email campaign of “visit this blog and flag it”?" - imagine a worse possibility, an eejit with too much spare time on his hands surfing from blog to blog and flagging everything he sees simply for fun - lovely eh? It doesn't take a campaign or a spammer to cause trouble so.

Re: "carrying the navbar is a small price to pay for free hosting, particularly as the alternative would probably be carrying advertising" - I have news for you. Even without the bar, you're still carrying Blogger's ad on your blog - look at your sidebar and there's the button there that by TOS you're not supposed to remove either. I didn't mind the toolbar the way it was but the "Flag" button is definitely more than I'd like to see on my blogs.

All in all, this looks either as a very poorly thought out attempt to get the users to do Blogger's work for free - without thinking what might come out of it and weighing all the pros and cons - or the beginning of censorship in the Internet - something I'd hate to see ever happen...

IrishWonder
Irishwonder.syndk8.co.uk
It's amusing to read all these conspiracy theories about, what Google will do with this feature. Do you just assume the worst possibility and that the company that brings you a free blogging and hosting tool is to harm its users? This just does not make sense to me.
This is speculation, anon, not conspiracy; and it's exploring possibilities, not assuming the worst.

Systems, and how they're gamed, interest me. While I'm no fan of spammers, I'll admit to a certain grudging admiration for their inventiveness.

The question of assuming the worst is a good one, and one I'll address in a new post.
Quote"It’s amusing to read all these conspiracy theories about, what Google will do with this feature. Do you just assume the worst possibility and that the company that brings you a free blogging and hosting tool is to harm its users? This just does not make sense to me."Unquote

This is open to so much abuse it doesn't bear thinking about. Give a bloke a peaked cap and a uniform and the power goes to his head.